Vintage banjo string height/action - what’s too high? … I was having all kinds of problems with intonation and keeping the banjo in tune. http://www.banjohangout.org/archive/103455, 'Trade Stelling Sunflower for Stelling Crusader', 'Tune of The Week for Friday, November 27th, 2020: Porter's Reel'. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. So I adjusted it and got it perfect but the intonation was still really bad on the 3rd string, and a little off on the 1st and 2nd. This will depend on how high your frets are, so I can't give you a number. I mark the face of the nut as it sits in its slot, using a wooden pencil that has been sanded flat to its diameter. http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Musician/GenSetup/NutAction/nutaction.html, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. I do my personal guitars a low as humanly possible because thats what i like. You may, however, start a new topic and refer to this topic with a link: http://www.banjohangout.org/archive/103455, derwood400 - Posted - 12/28/2007: 07:05:57, Hi folks,I was looking through the past posts trying to find some info on action. And the 3rd string was really moving. You want just enough height to keep the strings from buzzing on the first fret. Too-high string clearance at the nut will cause intonation problems, and it also causes sore fingers. Some advocate using the same height as the frets, which emulates having a "zero" fret. Light gauge strings may rattle and buzz more, so you have take all of these factors in account whensetting the depth of the nut slots. Replace the strings if needed. If your string reaches the feeler gauge (.018 inches is the best gauge to use for optimal nut action height) you are all set. ARCHIVED TOPIC: Action height at first fret, Please note this is an archived topic, so it is locked and unable to be replied to. Reactions: kevinpaul. Joined Dec 4, 2016 Messages 11,281 Reaction score 22,198. To contact the forum owner hit the Contact Us link. A. Then I build a stack of feeler gauges to suit and start cutting the slots to depth. So, I get looking really closely at the strings in the slots, and I start fretting and releasing the strings and I can see them moving a little bit in the slots (in the portion of the slot toward the frets). The way to measure nut action is to fret the string just above (bridge-side) of the second fret, then measure the clearance between the string and the first fret using a feeler gauge. When I capo the strings just after the third fret, all strings have some air between them and the first fret, except the high E string, which touches the fret. That is a very generic setup that a lot of people can do with. I usually set the bass string just a little higher, perhaps 0.012" (0.3mm). It origianlly appeared to me that it worked very well. I use automotive feeler gauges to determine the depth of the slots. Peghead Nation Instructor Bill Evans The left hand accomplishes this task by pressing the tips of the fingers against the fingerboard just behind a fret, as needed, to shorten the length of a string and make its pitch higher. These bars or rods have several functions. Strat-Talk.com is an independent, member supported forum and is not affiliated with Fender Musical Instruments Corporation. The difference between pressing just enough to make contact and pressing down hard or all the way to the board is readily detected visually, tactilely, and by measurement. Since I am an amateur and haven't bought a lot of luthier tools yet, I used two different scroll saw blades to make the slots in the nut. I've been playing just under a year and this is the first banjo I've built. This time I made a little file out of a feeler gauge, and flattened out the bottoms of the slots. Strings - the wrapping can come loose on the wound strings and give you a subtle buzz; this can be especially true of 6-string and 12-string banjos. There are lots of discussions about string action at the 12th and using different bridges etc. If you use light strings you might prefer it a little taller, say 0.010". Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright 2020 Banjo Hangout. Lately however I acquired a Weaver that has higher action at the low frets... for example, measuring from the top of the first fret to the bottom of the first string, I see a hair more than 1mm of action. Second, they keep the rim from going oval because of the string pressure from the tailpiece. I’ve recently picked up a vintage banjo (pre-truss rod) a Clifford Essex Imperial from the 20’s. The height of the string is pulling the notes sharp. All Forums Banjo string height adjustment Normal string height on a banjo is 1/8″ above the 12th fret and 9/64″ above the 22nd fret, which is measured to the center of the string from the top of each fret. about 7/64" at the 12th fret, using an 11/16" bridge. Take your playing to the next level with the help of a local or online banjo teacher. I'm struggling to get the first fret height on … ______________________________In the short rows.... Roy Smith - Posted - 12/28/2007: 08:38:24, The way to measure nut action is to fret the string just above (bridge-side) of the second fret, then measure the clearance between the string and the first fret using a feeler gauge. Get started with Bill's Beginning Banjo course, or hone your bluegrass chops in Bluegrass Banjo. Get started with Bill's Beginning Banjo course, or hone your bluegrass chops in Bluegrass Banjo. To modify string height entails manipulation of the rim rods which are the two rods traversing the center of the rim. It was only about .008 higher than what you guys suggested. What I didn't take into consideration was the fact that I was rocking the blades a little and created a little hump on the bottom of the slot so the string surface wasn't being broken at the front edge of the nut it was acutally about the middle of the nut. Normal string height, or action, is about 1/8" above the 12th fret and 9/64" above the 22nd fret as measured from the top of each fret to the center of the strings. My issue comes when playing open chords in the 1st/2nd frets. Step #4 - Checking string height. First, they hold the neck to the rim or pot. I set mine at about 0.008". Start by loosening the string, not taking it off. I am in the process of building a banjo right now, and I was able to string it up and play it yesterday, but I think I have the nut way too high. I check it all with a feeler gauge. When I capo the strings just after the third fret, all strings have some air between them and the first fret, except the high E string, which touches the fret. If it doesn’t, you need to file down the nut. In order to measure the height of your guitar’s strings, you should have either a ruler, a feeler gauge, or a specialized string action gauge. Then I cut a starter slot with a razor saw or jeweler's saw and file it open with the correctly-sized nut-slotting file. I am having alot of tuning problems and intonation problems when I capo and start fretting strings. This is just a preliminary exercise, and is only a minor precaution. I put the strings back on and voila, everything is perfect.
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